New decks possibly?

[chulak]

With the new cards I've tried some things and have seen and played against certain things. And with my first glance on the new cards these are my conclusions.

1) Knights is good. Dropping a treat every turn is how the deck works. turn one student of warfare then next turn either attack for 3 or drop a paladin or a squadron hawk. then turn 3 mirran crusader or knight exemplar and then the battle becomes uphill. And hero of bladehold NEEDS to die before she can attck cuz its rough when she gets her first attack. after two attack, you just start losing

2) the White Zenith is alot better than it looks. I'm working on a tokens deck and the card seems to work reaily well. turn 5 is good cuz its an instant, turn 6 its really good, turn 7+ you gain such a significant advantage.

3) Hero of Oxid Ridge is nuts. my UW squadron hawks cant stop him and neither can wall of omens, battlement, plant tokens, joraga treespeaker, birds etc. Any deck that has a bad match up against red deck, now has an even worse one with this guy.

4) The troll is AMAZING. the only way i see to battle him is to day of judgment him the same turn you play him, which rarely works anyway because the regeneration has mana open because he's probably in a ramp deck.

5) Green zenith is really good in elves. 1G-play whatever you need and put him into play. nuff said

6) Blue gets no major cards to play with. (Tezzeret doesn't have a home yet, so he doesn't count)

7)I love Pithing needle guy (Phyrexian revoker) being able to turn off jace the mind sculptor (or any planeswalker for that matter), Ezuri's overrun, fauna shaman, dragonlord and so on.

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[deo]

The last sentence hurt....

[justinhering]

I think KNIGHTS just got really good from this new set.

I actually have a prototype decklist started with the intent of building it soon.

Turn 1 - Student of Warfare
Turn 2 - Accorder Paladin or Honor of the Pure
Turn 3 - Knight Exemplar or Mirran Crusader, 4 and 2 respectively
Turn 4 - Day of Judgement or Hero of Bladehold

Late game, I like Baneslayer Angel as a 5-drop and possibly Victory's Herald as a 6-Drop. Since this is mono-white I also thought about True Conviction. The idea is to get to Turn 6 and win. Sun Titan also fits the bill nicely. I think its a matter of playtesting the different options.

[chulak]

I like turn 5 Conquerer's Pledge more and the White Zenith as a turn 6 and on. I actually think white weenies will be significantly more playable with the new besieged cards and with battlecry. Boros might win more

[deo]

Yea boros gets a sick 4 drop and another sick equiment

[Aaren]

Well im diggin this thread alrdy. I think knights will be good, but I feel like it lacks the consistancy to be a top deck. It will be very good that is for sure. I think it relies on hitting student of warefare every time for turn one and having the ramp set up nicely. Unfortunately it has a good possibility of getting flooded with either 2 drops or 3 drops.

Justin noted today in the store and I have been thinking this also, Red/white knights is a very big possibility. Having the burn to add to the beatdown just seems very good. Just something to toy around with. (the 4 red drop is unbelievable).

Another thing to throw around in your hand since Manny brought up the white sun zenith. running challice with proliferate or making a green white ramp with it could be very effective, but thats just my opinion

By the way Manny when you said blue had nothing you're completely forgetting Consecrated Sphinx. That card is amazing, and this sounds a bit obsurd, but depending on the meta steel sabatoge could be sideboarded. And I gave Tezz a home, I think the deck did quite well and has potential.

[justinhering]

I actually put a Boros Knight decklist together tonight after the Super Bowl. The other one drop with Student of Warfare is Signal Pest. He fits in the synergy better with knights and battle cry. I did NOT include Hero of Bladehold in my list, in favor of Oxid Ridge. Haste is such a huge advantage.

I may get the cards together and build this. The most expensive are the four Arid Mesas.

[aaren]

put up a deck list id love to help ya any way I can. But I agree with you 100% haste is too good of an advantage to pass up. My one thing would be he might just go better in a boros deck as it is. like minus the knights and just add him turn 4. Boros is a nasty deck as it is and is largely underrated in my opinion.

[deo]

Im not sure how well Student of Warfare would fit into a boros deck... As boros usually wants to maximize its mana (mostly red) for Spikeshot eldar.

[aaren]

i feel like student would make a great addition due to the fact it would help you deal damage even if you do not see the 2 drops, for example making him a 3/3 in my opinion making him much more deadly than spikeshot. I mean worst case you get value out of your mana if you miss a drop during your curve. Which for spikeshot not only do you need 2 red to activate his ability, but you need a third open mana for it too which in a beatdown deck is valueable. If your worried bout mana i would try signal post. Also Steppe lynx is quite a good looking one drop.

[justinhering]

Decklists for Boros Knights are on another thread. Two versions, one by me and one by Aaren.